Ramit Sethi – Endless Audience

Ramit Sethi – Endless Audience

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Along with the course, we got access to a LinkedIn Group. Although it had over two thousand members, it was dead. I posted a few times in there and got a couple responses after a few days. There is no real engagement or community.

I think he mentioned in the course that they had tried Facebook earlier, and it didn’t work out. They must have been testing LinkedIn.

Later on, I mentioned this to the Support team they have and they said there is an active Dream Job Facebook group as well but I had to dig myself to find it. I joined the group and it was small. There were only a couple hundred members, but the group was a lot more active than LinkedIn.

People were pouring out their souls in these long essays about their struggle on there. I ended up writing my own essays on there myself.

There was also a community-hosted weekly phone/webcam call to discover and help each other. I got feedback, advice, and encouragement from others. One of the people on there (a Harvard grad) called me personally to help me and we even found out we went to the same high school. I also got a lot of encouragement and life experiences from people when I told them about my lack of progress and struggle to “find a calling.”

Most of them subscribed to the whole Ramit Sethi and Cal Newport philosophy of “Following your Passion”, which is that you have to address practicality first and you can learn to love anything that you get good at and make incremental progress at (through money or performance), even if it seems boring at first. I was skeptical, but some of the group members gave their own life experiences of this and it really changed my mind. One of them had to adopt a seemingly boring government job, but learned to love it by finding interest in the topic with an open mind.

The only point of improvement for the group was if it was larger so that people could answer questions faster. I had to wait several days at times. And the weekly phone calls were inconsistent. Sometimes, they would happen every other week. Overall, these aren’t huge problems.

I went on one of these phone calls, asked a question, got some great advice from the group, and left. A week later, I reported on my progress (of securing interviews), and one of the call facilitaters applauded me in the Facebook Group for “asking just one question and getting to work.”

The Customer Service

The customer service system was managed through a network called Zen Desk. You could chat with them on a live chat pop up inside the course. They would respond within 24 hours usually (it wasn’t live chat).

It was slightly above average, but had plenty of room for improvement.

One of the Zen Desk people was really nice to me. One time, I was really struggling to see results with the Dream Job process and get an interview even though I had done as they said and talked to over a hundred people through LinkedIn. He gave me a month of another program, Ramit’s Brain Trust, which slightly helped.

Another experience with them was bad. I had finally gotten a job with Dream Job and asked a live chat person where to specifically look for advice on succeeding after you got your job. I had a decent idea since I had went through all the modules in extreme detail, but I wanted to see if he could point me in a more specific direction. Instead, the live chat person gave a vague answer like, “Module 4, 8, etc.”

That’s like asking where the beans are at the supermarket and getting a response like, “Aisle 4, 8, etc.” Nonetheless, I pressed him to clarify and he gave a slightly more specific answer. It left a bad taste in my mouth and prevented me from becoming a super fan of this whole thing. But I just figured it out on my own. No need to curse them out or anything crazy.

Was It Worth It?

Forget everyone else’s testimonials. For me, was it worth it? What’s my honest-to-god answer? It’s hard to say. I like measuring things from a numeric return on investment approach so that’s what I will do.

I put in around $2,000 for the program. I worked fairly hard to make it work. I drove around and scheduled tons of phone calls with a variety of people. As you can see, if you don’t follow through or work hard to do what the program says, your return on investment or value achieved could be far less, so it depends on the person.

Eventually, I got a job applying the standard ways I had before: online through their direct site. I had significantly changed the structure and presentation of my resume and interview process from Dream Job. Could I say for sure that it was Dream Job that made my resume get noticed? I can’t say for certain, but there is a good chance.

Also, I applied twice to the job, which was noticed positively by my employer (possibly, an accident. I can’t remember.). This persistence was something Dream Job didn’t mention.

But there is one thing that most likely made it worth it for me many times over from a return on investment standpoint: asking for a raise…

Before Dream Job, I never would have considered asking for a higher salary or being confident in my worth. I just wanted a job. After, I spent a long time studying negotiation and practicing to ask for a raise.

But when it happened, I butchered the whole thing. I forgot, but ended up following back via email with a feeble attempt and hoping it would transition to a negotiation via phone (which I would have caved in on if there was even moderate pushback). Despite this, I got it. Just with a simple email reply back accepting the new salary. I won’t give you specifics but it was a decent amount more than the price of Dream Job.